Plex has announced a massive price increase on the service’s Lifetime Plex Pass. On July 1, the lifetime subscription option will go from $249.99 to $749.99, an increase of 200%. The price hike will only apply to new subscribers, with no changes to monthly or annual subscription pricing.
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- greyhathero@lemmy.worldEnglish22 hours
Probably going to get hate for this. But I have easily gotten 750 dollars worth of value out of my lifetime subscription. I’m sure they are doing this to drive down lifetime subscriptions and increase month to month. But I legit think 750 over 20 years it’s still a legit price.
- xnx@piefed.socialEnglish1 day
I wish jellyfin and the apps could ship with something like wireguard setup by default so people that use the jellyfin apps could instantly watch media outside their house without learning what wireguard/tailscale is
- LordKitsuna@lemmy.worldEnglish1 day
The fact that’s needed at all is the problem. Developers need to stop making monolithic structures that have access to everything ever and putting it on the user to maintain to maintain a VPN network for security.
There’s no reason I should not be able to just use an nginx reverse proxy for remote access to my jellyfin and have that be safe. It should at worst give people a copy of my media if there’s a security issue.
Personally I went out of my way to make this be the case, i have my instance locked into an unprivileged lxc whitelist only on syscalls which took a while to figure out the minimum needed for function but I got there. The host System is using the hardened kernel from Upstream and a series of sysctl lockdowns for example P Trace is not allowed even if you are the root user.
So I do indeed just nginx reverse proxy my instant because the worst case scenario even if they got complete shell access to the system they would be locked into an unprivileged container that had no access to any files other than my media files but the fact that I have to go to this level is already ridiculous
- WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish1 day
It should at worst give people a copy of my media if there’s a security issue.
that’s not the worst possibility. the worst possibility is an RCE into your server.
Personally I went out of my way to make this be the case, i have my instance locked into an unprivileged lxc whitelist only on syscalls which took a while to figure out the minimum needed for function but
that’s a pretty exotic setup. Exciting, but for most people learning to manage a VPN is easier
- WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish1 day
It should at worst give people a copy of my media if there’s a security issue.
that’s not the worst possibility. the worst possibility is an RCE into your server.
Personally I went out of my way to make this be the case, i have my instance locked into an unprivileged lxc whitelist only on syscalls which took a while to figure out the minimum needed for function but
that’s a pretty exotic setup. Exciting, but for most people learning to manage a VPN is easier
- LordKitsuna@lemmy.worldEnglish1 day
I am aware that an rce is the worst possibility I’m saying it shouldn’t be. The web portion is already its own isolated binary that you have to install but it’s designed with seemingly very little attention to security.
To the point that jellyfin has already had several major RCE and despite having full support for running over the web with http developers are basically just like you should not be using this without a VPN which is overall a pretty pathetic stance for a media server
- flux@lemmy.mlEnglish12 hours
Recently nginx had an RCE, so if your web server interface has an RCE, it doesn’t matter if jellyfin code is top-notch, if you happen to use a proxy with RCE in front of it. Wireguard has never had an RCE and I’m relatively certain it never will, because I believe you must be in possession of some keys to go very deep in the wireguard code, which in itself is not very large piece of code.
But yes, in principle I agree that we should code securely instead of depending on VPN to solve it for us, unfortunately it’s not the reality today. Memory safe programming languages help, but don’t completely protect against logic errors. VPN is general is pretty good for defence-in-depth.
- LordKitsuna@lemmy.worldEnglish12 hours
The nginx rce relied an a series of requirements that affect almost nobody. You had to be using a very specific module and processing a specific type of data reverse proxy was not affected.
But regardless I get your point that anything can have an RCE. However as you say at the end in principle that does not mean you should just give up and expect external projects to handle your security. VPN is a great way to access your services and it is good defense and depth, but for the sake of being a successful project to the masses? It’s basically a dead end Road
- WandowsVista@lemmy.worldEnglish1 day
there are a lot of us still on Plex that hadn’t reached the threshold of issues vs effort that would motivate us to migrate to something like jellyfin.
looks like we’ve arrived.
- FlexibleToast@lemmy.worldEnglish1 hour
I haven’t. I bought lifetime Plex Pass something like 15 years ago. A price change doesn’t effect me. It’s all their shitty updates and removing of features that makes me keep an eye on Jellyfin. I already have a sync setup for my watch status and a couple of my main users. Jellyfins apps are still worse.
- frozenfoxx@lemmy.worldEnglish6 hours
Why not run both? That’s what I do, then if Plex is an issue for someone I can make them a Jellyfin account
- Lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish1 day
I have the lifetime pass, bought it for like $80 many moons ago.
looks like we’ve arrived.
Agreed, this is the tipping point. This is where we will see Plex start to abandon the lifetime pass in favor of “imaginary money line go up forever” subscriptions.
- 2 days
The Jellyfin vs Plex thing always struck me as odd. As in - why are we holding JF to a different standard to (say) Immich, Syncthing, Pi-hole or any one of a thousand different programs people self host?
Yes, JF ships multi-user accounts and client apps etc. I get it, “multi-use” is implied, so the comparison isn’t totally unfair. But there’s a difference between ‘this feature exists’ and ‘this is the primary purpose of the tool’.
The fact that you CAN share it externally doesn’t mean everyone running JF is doing that, or that it should be the benchmark the whole project is judged by.
To me, self host means “I host it, myself” not “I host it and then pretend to be Netflix for family and friends”. If that’s the use case, then of course, Plex away.
It’s cool that you CAN share JF externally, and it’s cool that Plex does that differently / better. We shouldn’t hold one to the standards of the other.
- R1x38rexrper@lemmy.mlEnglish2 days
Never used Plex. Jellyfin has always met my needs, so I never bothered to try it.
- slazer2au@lemmy.worldEnglish2 days
A gentle reminder that Jellyfin exists to those thinking of alternatives.
- kieron115@startrek.websiteEnglish1 day
A gentle reminder that Jellyin more or less requires you to set up a reverse proxy and a secure VPN to use it outside of your home.
- FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.auEnglish2 days
It’s not better in any way other than cost. That cost comes with massive drawbacks.
- MaggiWuerze@feddit.orgEnglish2 days
If you ignore the mostly horrendous UI, the security problems, the worse transcoding performance, the harder setup, the difficulty to access it remotely in a safe way,… Yeah sure, way better
- Vinstaal0@feddit.nlEnglish12 hours
Plex doesn't have hardware transcoding unless you pay almost 800 euro
- MaggiWuerze@feddit.orgEnglish12 hours
I, and I assume everyone on this forum who has one, paid around 50-100€ for their lifetime pass. My hardware encoding works great and doesn’t need me to tell it about each and ever codec in existence and how to handle each one.
The new price is insane, but that was not the topic of this thread.
- xnx@piefed.socialEnglish1 day
The ui can be improved with community addons like moonfin but i agree it would be nice if they improved these out of the box
- MaggiWuerze@feddit.orgEnglish1 day
I couldn’t care less about the client design, since you have free choice there. If only the devs could be arsed to fix the issues that prevent me from just putting it behind a reverse proxy. If I could let people use it without exposing what is essentially an open door or forcing them to install a vpn, I would probably do that and slowly ween off Plex
- non_burglar@lemmy.worldEnglish23 hours
This is a good illustration of the tradeoff of free software.
Jellyfin is core software, its mission is serving media, not providing auth or secure access. Those can be handled by other projects.
When you say “the devs can’t be arsed”, I think you’re misunderstanding that they won’t ever work on this, because that isnt the model.
The tradeoff with “free” (both in terms of free speech and free beer) is that work you need to do yourself to connect those pieces.
- webhead@lemmy.worldEnglish22 hours
How are other projects going to handle using the Jellyfin app to log into Jellyfin? I don’t understand this. I see sentiments like this pretending Jellyfin is perfect like they don’t understand why people use Plex. I want to give my mom a URL that she can login to (or even better she gives me a code) after she downloads an app. What is the point of Jellyfin itself not handling this? It’s pointless. If I’m going to have a half baked server app, I might as well just use Kodi. They can be as stubborn as they want with this but people need these very basic things. I’d actually donate money to the project if they didn’t stubbornly REFUSE to do the main thing every Plex user wants. Other projects don’t need to do this. The Jellyfin developers need to. I first tried Jellyfin 6 years ago and this is STILL an issue and so I just stay on Plex because I’ve already got lifetime. I WANT to move to Jellyfin but I need to give normies access to my stuff and apparently that’s a wontfix for them?? I can host all this shit myself. I just need it all built in and for the apps to support it. I don’t think anyone is crazy to want this right?
- Vinstaal0@feddit.nlEnglish12 hours
You just give those people the name of the app your recommend (Jellyfin, Moonfin etc) and give them the URL and their username, then they create a password.
It’s not that difficult for most and if it is you help them once with it.
- non_burglar@lemmy.worldEnglish21 hours
What the hell.
This is self hosted and you’re screaming about not having an easy button.
As I mentioned, jellyfin is not an auth platform, nor a reverse proxy. And they will never be. Build your own, there are many products out there. Or hire someone, Christ.
Either way, quit bitching, put on your adult pants and either add auth to jellyfin, use Plex, or shut the fuck up.
- 1 hour
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters CGNAT Carrier-Grade NAT HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web IP Internet Protocol NAT Network Address Translation Plex Brand of media server package SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption VPN Virtual Private Network VPS Virtual Private Server (opposed to shared hosting) nginx Popular HTTP server
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- Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish2 days
Jellyfin has lots and lots of tutorials, fyi. it’s not as intimidating as it seems once you get going with it.
- MaggiWuerze@feddit.orgEnglish2 days
And Plex doesn’t require any. It’s okay to accept that one product can be more polished than the other, and Plex has a lot of stuff that “just works”
- Optional@lemmy.worldEnglish2 days
The company’s blog post also described a number of improvements they plan to make
After you pay: “oops, we won’t”
- teawrecks@sopuli.xyzEnglish2 days
As a lifetime owner, the number of features they’ve deprecated is probably the worst part.
- Photo support (luckily Immich came along)
- Tidal integration (no idea if that was Plex or Tidal’s decision)
- Plugins (god forbid anyone add the functionality they keep removing)
It’s close between that and the last app overhaul that removed a bunch of functionality.
- 1 day
Watch Together isn’t removed, but it’s been deprecated and has stopped working on at least one platform (Chromecast).
Really shitty move to be removing/deprecating functionality and then asking for more money.